These Rang floats work very well for body position and form. However they don''t work well at all with flip turns in a pool. Even with Jammer shorts for males, you can''t get them tight enough to last more than a few flips without them sliding down to your knees. On skin only for females, I think they''d be almost useless. However, if you want to use them for open water swimming like Triathlons, I think they work quite well.