holds up better than off-brand polymesh suits

These are great.  They last about three years of four hour practices' six days a week.  They really help in competition.  They help you get stronger so you're doing the same workout as everyone else but are really working harder.  They work for Women also.

The only problem I have with almost all the trainers like this, is they have an inner liner breif, that is made of the same material as the oter shell, it is totally rigid and does not stretch. So it does not mold to you're body, and requires constant adjustment, and if it rides up ot can be extremely uncomfortable if it snags you in the wrong place.

Great training suit

Ok so I ordered a pair of these and a pair of the waterpros.

These fit good and are comfortable.
This was my first experience with the square cut suit.
These feel close to the right size.
The suit cut and fit is different compared to a jammer or regular brief.
The fabric and craftsmenship is far better then the waterpros.

i swim for a junior college and use this almost every day of the week so i get a lot of use out of it. Its great for drag and with the help of the suit i dropped 11 seconds off a 400 IM time. However, when i was ordering people said it was to big so order a size smaller, i did and the leg holes are really tight. this might be because i have really big legs, but just thought i'd say order your corect suit size so its not hella tight around the legs.