I have had a million cycling shorts, super expensive "name" brands, which really turned out to be just Chinese trash with a tag and logo emblazoned on to hike the price so people can impress one another. Typically the elastic decomposes and the spandex gets thin FAST making them useless. NOTDesoto. This brand ACTUALLY is a superb product. I finally wore out my last 2 shorts after about 10 years, maybe longer. I speed skate and cycle, always hand wash and line dry NEVER used harsh detergent nor machine nor dryer. And guess what - the elastic is STILL PERFECT. Only the fabric is wearing thin. I really don't care if I am a see thru guy whilst training, but others may not appreciate that :) So I am buying more DeSoto. Not even considering any other "brands." I hope the Desoto line is still premium and has not cut corners to improve profit at customer expense. ANd that they have not sold out in the last 11 years. We will see.